Legislature(1993 - 1994)
03/28/1993 01:12 PM House FIN
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HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE
MARCH 29, 1993
1:45 P.M.
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CALL TO ORDER
Co-Chair Ron Larson called the meeting of the House Finance
Committee to order at 1:45 P.M.
PRESENT
Co-Chair Larson Representative Brown
Co-Chair MacLean Representative Foster
Vice-Chair Hanley Representative Grussendorf
Representative Hoffman Representative Martin
Representative Navarre Representative Parnell
Representative Therriault
ALSO PRESENT
Representative Irene Nicholia; Representative Carl Moses;
Representative Fran Ulmer; Representative John Davies;
Representative Bill Hudson; Representative Ramona Barnes;
Representative Jerry Mackie; Representative Tom Brice; Jeff
Morrison, Director, Administrative Service Support Systems,
Department of Military and Veterans Affairs; Mike Greany,
Director, Legislative Finance Division; Cheryl Frasca,
Director, Division of Budget Review, Office of Management
and Budget, Office of the Governor; Mike Cushing, Research
Analyst, Fish Tax Program, Department of Community and
Regional Affairs; Nico Bus, Chief, Financial Services,
Department of Natural Resources; Raga Elim, Special
Assistant, Department of Natural Resources.
SUMMARY INFORMATION
HB 55 An Act making appropriations for the operating and
loan program expenses of state government and to
capitalize funds; and providing for an effective
date.
HB 55 was held in Committee for further
discussion. The following departments were closed:
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Department of Administration
Department of Military and Veterans Affairs
Department of Revenue
Department of Corrections
Department of Labor
Department of Fish and Game
Department of Commerce and Economic Development
Department of Natural Resources
Department of Public Safety
Department of Community and Regional Affairs
University of Alaska
HOUSE BILL 55
"An Act making appropriations for the operating and
loan program expenses of state government and to
capitalize funds; and providing for an effective date."
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION
Co-Chair Larson MOVED DOA #2 (new amendment) which would
restore funds for nutrition, transportation and support
services to the Older Alaskans Commission. There being NO
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.
Co-Chair Larson stated that DOA #3 would be WITHDRAWN with
the same concept addressed in the reappropriation or
supplemental budget. There being NO OBJECTION, it was
withdrawn.
Representative Brown MOVED Intent Language for DOA-A which
would direct the telecommunications council to continue
their work in coordinating the delivery of broadcast
services. Co-Chair MacLean indicated her support of the
intent. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.
Representative Navarre MOVED DOA #13 which would provide a
funding shift for equal employment opportunities.
Representative Martin OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Navarre, Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman.
OPPOSED: Parnell, Therriault, Foster, Hanley,
Martin, Larson, MacLean.
The MOTION FAILED, (4-7).
DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY AND VETERANS AFFAIRS
JEFF MORRISON, DIRECTOR, ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES SUPPORT
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SYSTEM, DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY AND VETERANS AFFAIRS, spoke
to the transfer of 470 funds from the Department of Military
and Veterans Affairs (DMVA) to the Department of
Environmental Conservation (DEC) near-shore project. He
pointed out that DMVA does not have the extra $500 thousand
dollars within the current Governor's amended budget for the
depot project. The original departmental request was $1.3
million dollars which included a separate $100 thousand
dollars for the oil and hazardous substance depot project.
Representative Therriault elaborated, the DMVA budget
includes $800 thousand dollars yet the Department has broken
that amount down differently. He emphasized the block of
money. Co-Chair MacLean MOVED to RESCIND action taken on
DEC #18. Representative Therriault OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Parnell, Foster, Grussendorf, Hanley,
Hoffman, Martin, MacLean, Larson.
OPPOSED: Therriault, Brown, Navarre.
The MOTION PASSED, (8-3).
Representative Therriault MOVED TO AMEND DEC #18 changing
the amount to $400 thousand dollars split between DEC and
DMVA. Mr. Morrison pointed out the shift would require DMVA
to reduce the Response Preparedness and Planning component
from $600 thousand dollars to $200 thousand dollars which
would be harmful to the program. Representative Hoffman
OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Therriault, Brown, Grussendorf, Navarre,
Parnell.
OPPOSED: Foster, Hanley, Hoffman, Martin, Larson,
MacLean.
The MOTION FAILED, (5-6).
Representative Hanley MOVED TO AMEND DEC #18 changing the
amount to $200 thousand dollars. He stated it would not
affect the Department's response ability. Co-Chair MacLean
OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Hanley, Hoffman,
Navarre, Parnell, Therriault.
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OPPOSED: Foster, Martin, Larson, MacLean.
The MOTION PASSED, (7-4).
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE
Representative Navarre WITHDREW REV #8. There being NO
OBJECTION, it was withdrawn.
Representative Martin MOVED Intent Language REV-B which
would delete all unfunded PCN's within the Department.
Representative Brown asked if the elimination of the
position could affect a vacancy calculation.
MIKE GREANY, DIRECTOR, LEGISLATIVE FINANCE DIVISION,
explained the vacancy factor calculation used by each
individual department. Representative Martin pointed out
the intent would affect only unfunded positions within the
Commissioner's Office.
CHERYL FRASCA, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF BUDGET REVIEW, OFFICE
OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, advised
that unfunded PCN's have currently been deleted. There
being NO OBJECTION to the Intent Language, it was adopted.
(Tape Change, HFC 93-79, Side 2).
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS
Representative Navarre MOVED TO RESCIND action taken on CORR
Co-Chair MacLean OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION to RESCIND.
IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Hoffman, Navarre, Brown.
OPPOSED: Foster, Hanley, Martin, Parnell,
Therriault, MacLean, Larson.
The MOTION FAILED, (4-7).
Representative Navarre MOVED TO RESCIND action taken on CORR
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Hoffman, Navarre, Brown.
OPPOSED: Hanley, Martin, Parnell, Therriault,
Foster, Larson, MacLean.
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The MOTION FAILED, (4-7).
DEPARTMENT OF LAW
Representative Hanley MOVED Governor's amendment Section
DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME
Co-Chair MacLean MOVED TO RESCIND action of failure to adopt
F&G #1. There being NO OBJECTION, it was rescinded.
Co-Chair MacLean MOVED F&G #1 which would reinstate three
regional coordinators in Kotzebue, Dillingham and Southeast.
Representative Grussendorf OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Hanley, Martin, Parnell, Therriault,
Foster, MacLean, Larson.
OPPOSED: Hoffman, Navarre, Brown, Grussendorf.
The MOTION PASSED, (7-4).
Representative Hoffman MOVED F&G #12 which would increase
the Kotzebue Board of Fisheries and Game's regional council.
Representative Hanley OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Hoffman, Navarre, Brown, Foster,
Grussendorf.
OPPOSED: Martin, Parnell, Therriault, Hanley,
Larson, MacLean.
The MOTION FAILED, (5-6).
Co-Chair MacLean MOVED TO RESCIND action taken on F&G #2.
There being NO OBJECTION, it was rescinded. Co-Chair
MacLean MOVED amendment F&G #2. Representative Navarre
OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Martin, Parnell, Therriault, Foster,
Grussendorf, Hanley, Hoffman, MacLean,
Larson.
OPPOSED: Navarre, Brown.
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The MOTION PASSED, (9-2).
Representative Navarre MOVED F&G #9.
REPRESENTATIVE JERRY MACKIE explained the amendment would
reinstate $388 thousand dollars to the Klawock Hatchery.
Co-Chair MacLean recommended raw fish tax as a funding
source. Representative Mackie replied that if the House
Finance Committee recommended using that tax, the community
would not object. He reiterated that the money for the
Klawock Hatchery is a priority for the community.
(Tape Change, HFC 93-80, Side 1).
Representative Hanley noted all hatcheries should be treated
equally and added he would not support the amendment.
Representative Hanley OBJECTED to F&G #9. Representative
Grussendorf pointed out that the Raw Fish Tax would be an
inappropriate funding source.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Navarre, Brown, Foster, Grussendorf,
Hoffman.
OPPOSED: Parnell, Therriault, Hanley, Martin,
Larson, MacLean.
The MOTION FAILED, (5-6).
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS
Co-Chair MacLean MOVED Governor's amendment #672.
Representative Brown pointed out Section (3) of #672 was
held open in order to transfer that section to DEC.
Co-Chair MacLean MOVED adoption of Governor's amendment
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Parnell, Therriault, Brown, Foster,
Grussendorf, Hanley, Hoffman, Navarre,
MacLean, Larson, Martin.
OPPOSED: 0
The MOTION PASSED, (11-0).
Co-Chair Larson MOVED TO RESCIND the previous action taken
on CRA #2.
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MICHAEL CUSHING, RESEARCH ANALYST, FISH TAX PROGRAM,
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS, explained the
impact of the deletion of program receipts. He provided the
Committee with handouts. [Attachment #2, #3, #4]. Mr.
Cushing added it was estimated that $3 million dollars would
be accumulated of which DCRA would receive $1.5 million
dollars. The cost of collection and disbursement will come
from the Department of Revenue.
Representative Navarre emphasized that the shared fishing
tax program would not be a good distribution for funds. He
OBJECTED to rescinding action on CRA #2.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Therriault, Foster, Grussendorf, Hanley,
Hoffman, Parnell, Larson, MacLean.
OPPOSED: Brown, Navarre.
Representative Martin was not present for the vote.
The MOTION PASSED, (8-2).
Representative Navarre MOVED CRA #2. Co-Chair MacLean
OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Brown, Navarre, Therriault.
OPPOSED: Foster, Grussendorf, Hanley, Hoffman,
Parnell, Larson, MacLean.
Representative Martin was not present for the vote.
The MOTION FAILED, (3-7).
Representative Brown MOVED CRA #7 which would restore
funding for the Fairbanks Native Association employment
program. Representative Hanley OBJECTED.
REPRESENTATIVE JOHN DAVIES explained the need for funding
the restoration. He asked that funding originate from the
general fund rather than the STEP Program. Representative
Therriault advised that the STEP Program funding would be
more appropriate.
(Tape Change, HFC 93-80, Side 2).
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
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IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Hoffman, Navarre, Brown.
OPPOSED: Foster, Martin, Parnell, Therriault,
MacLean, Larson.
Representative Hanley was not present for the vote.
The MOTION FAILED, (4-6).
Representative Brown MOVED TO RESCIND action on failure to
adopt CRA #6. Co-Chair MacLean OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Hoffman, Navarre, Brown,
Larson.
OPPOSED: Martin, Parnell, Therriault, Foster,
MacLean.
Representative Hanley was not present for the vote.
The MOTION FAILED, (5-5).
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES
Representative Therriault MOVED TO RESCIND action on failure
to adopt the Governor's amendment #452. Co-Chair MacLean
OBJECTED. Representative Therriault stated the money could
originate from federal funds. Co-Chair MacLean WITHDREW THE
OBJECTION. There being NO FURTHER OBJECTION, the amendment
was before the Committee. Representative Therriault MOVED
Governor's amendment #452. There being NO OBJECTION, it was
adopted.
Co-Chair Larson MOVED DNR #1 which would increase nursery
operations. The remaining sections of the amendment were
withdrawn. Representative Martin OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Hanley, Hoffman, Parnell, Brown, Foster,
Grussendorf, MacLean, Larson.
OPPOSED: Martin, Therriault.
Representative Navarre was not present for the vote.
The MOTION PASSED, (8-2).
Representative Brown MOVED DNR #4 which would restore the
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Governor's FY 94 request for the Oil and Gas Conservation
Commission. Co-Chair MacLean OBJECTED. Representative
Therriault said that the Department had offered that
position in the 1% scenario proposal.
NICO BUS, CHIEF, FINANCIAL SERVICE, DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL
RESOURCES, stated the loss of the position would jeopardize
the loss of federal revenue.
RAGE ELIM, SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT
OF NATURAL RESOURCES, added the requested amount would make
the position whole not needing additional positions.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Hoffman, Navarre, Brown, Grussendorf,
Larson.
OPPOSED: Martin, Parnell, Therriault, Foster,
Hanley, MacLean.
The MOTION FAILED, (5-6).
Representative Therriault MOVED DNR #8 which would pro-rate
the $75 thousand dollars for State Fairs. Co-Chair MacLean
pointed out that the pro-rating of state fair moneys was
done disproportionately. She encouraged that the funds be
allocated based on an equal percentage reduction (36.55%)
applied to each grant from their current grant amount.
There being NO OBJECTION, DNR #8 was adopted.
Co-Chair MacLean MOVED TO AMEND DNR #8 as recommended in the
Committee allocation amount. Representative Therriault
stressed he did not want to place general fund dollars back
into the budget. Co-Chair MacLean WITHDREW the motion and
asked to keep DNR #8 open for further consideration. There
being NO OBJECTION, it was held open.
Representative Brown MOVED DNR #11 which would restore
funding for oil and gas lease programs. Representative
Therriault OBJECTED. Mr. Bus noted the reduction would
eliminate one lease sale in FY 94.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman, MacLean.
OPPOSED: Martin, Parnell, Therriault, Foster,
Hanley, Larson.
Representative Navarre was not present for the vote.
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The MOTION FAILED, (4-6).
Representative Brown MOVED DNR #5 which would restore the
component to the Governor's FY 94 request, at the same time
would maintain personal service funding for twenty-two
positions as authorized in FY 93. Mr. Elim pointed out that
information resulting from the position would insure proper
decision making in land management. Representative
Therriault OBJECTED to DNR #5.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Hoffman, Navarre, Brown, Grussendorf,
Larson.
OPPOSED: Martin, Parnell, Therriault, Foster,
Hanley, MacLean.
The MOTION FAILED, (5-6).
Representative Navarre MOVED TO RESCIND action taken on DNR
level. Representative Martin OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Navarre, Larson.
OPPOSED: Parnell, Therriault, Foster, Hanley,
Hoffman, Martin.
Representative MacLean was not present for the vote.
The MOTION FAILED, (4-6).
Representative Navarre MOVED DNR #13 which provide funds to
start a program for developing and marketing virus-free seed
potatoes.
(Tape Change, HFC 93-81, Side 1).
Representative Hanley recommended using program receipts to
pay for the program. Representative Davies pointed out
currently there is not a program existing. Representative
Therriault emphasized that the $50 thousand dollar request
would not be sufficient to start a program and recommended
placing the program into the Division of Agriculture.
Representative Brown requested $240 thousand dollars of ARLF
funds be added in order to start the program. Co-Chair
Larson replied that ARLF would not be an appropriate source.
Representative Davies interjected that $50 thousand dollars
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could establish the beginning of the program.
Representative Therriault OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Navarre.
OPPOSED: Therriault, Hanley, Hoffman, Martin,
Parnell, Larson, MacLean.
Representative Foster was not present for the vote.
The MOTION FAILED, (3-7).
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
Representative Therriault MOVED Governor's amendment #799.
There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.
Representative Parnell MOVED DPS #2 which would increase
wildlife protection in Bristol Bay, Alaska Peninsula/Eastern
Aleutians and Western Aleutians/Bering Sea.
REPRESENTATIVE CARL MOSES spoke in support of the amendment.
Representative Martin OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Foster, Grussendorf, Hanley, Hoffman,
Parnell, Larson, MacLean.
OPPOSED: Brown, Martin, Navarre.
Representative Therriault was not present for the vote.
The MOTION PASSED, (7-3).
Representative Hanley MOVED Intent Language DPS-A which
would keep the canine scent detection unit in the Fairbanks
area narcotics task force. There being NO OBJECTION, it was
adopted.
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
Representative Therriault MOVED TO RESCIND CED #5. Co-Chair
MacLean OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Hanley, Navarre, Parnell,
Therriault, Brown, Larson.
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OPPOSED: Foster, Hoffman, MacLean.
Representative Martin was not present for the vote.
The MOTION PASSED, (7-3).
Representative Therriault MOVED TO AMEND CED #5 by deleting
the $80 thousand dollar general fund contractual from the
Commissioner's Office. Co-Chair MacLean OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Hanley, Navarre, Parnell,
Therriault, Brown, Larson.
OPPOSED: Foster, Hoffman, MacLean.
Representative Martin was not present for the vote.
The MOTION PASSED, (7-3).
Representative Therriault MOVED CED #9 which would provide
funding for PSP/Domoic Acid sampling program.
Representative Hanley declared a conflict of interest as he
serves on a marketing board. Co-Chair MacLean OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Navarre, Parnell, Therriault, Brown,
Foster, Grussendorf, Hanley, Larson.
OPPOSED: Hoffman, Martin, MacLean.
The MOTION PASSED, (8-3).
UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA
Representative Navarre MOVED UOA #1 which would add $115
thousand dollars to the University of Alaska for the rural
college/Tanana Valley Campus. Representative Davies
provided the Committee with information. [Attachment #5].
Representative Navarre added that $125 thousand dollars
could originate from a decrement to the Alaska Geography
Textbook. Co-Chair MacLean OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Navarre, Therriault, Brown, Foster,
Grussendorf, Hoffman.
OPPOSED: Martin, Parnell, Hanley, MacLean,
Larson.
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The MOTION PASSED, (6-5).
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 6:00 P.M.
HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE
MARCH 28, 1993
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CALL TO ORDER
Co-Chair Ron Larson called the meeting of the House Finance
Committee to order at 1:12 P.M.
PRESENT
Co-Chair Larson Representative Brown
Co-Chair MacLean Representative Foster
Vice-Chair Hanley Representative Grussendorf
Representative Hoffman Representative Martin
Representative Navarre Representative Parnell
Representative Therriault
ALSO PRESENT
Janet Clarke, Director, Division of Administrative Services,
Department of Health and Social Services; Cheryl Frasca,
Director, Division of Budget Review, Office of Management
and Budget, Office of the Governor; Michael Nizich,
Director, Division of Administrative Services, Office of the
Governor; Deborah Wing, Director, Division of Family and
Youth Services, Department of Health and Social Services;
Margaret Lowe, M.Ed., Ed., S, Director, Division of Mental
Health and Development Disabilities, Department of Health
and Social Services; Jan Hansen, Director, Division of
Public Assistance, Department of Health and Social Services;
John Abshire, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Labor;
Representative Jerry Mackie; Representative Jim Nordlund;
Representative Tom Brice; Representative John Davies;
Representative Fran Ulmer; Representative Joe Sitton; Mary
Pat Murphy, Director, Media Support Center, Office of the
Governor; Mike Greany, Director, Legislative Finance
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Division; Mel Krosang, Aid to Representative Barnes.
SUMMARY INFORMATION
HB 55 An Act making appropriations for the operating and
loan program expenses of state government and to
capitalize funds; and providing for an effective
date.
HB 56 An Act making appropriations for operating
expenses for certain programs for which the costs
are derived from mandated formulas or criteria,
and for expenses for certain leases and contracts
for state services and operations; and providing
for an effective date.
Amendments were considered for the Department of
Health and Social Services, the Office of the
Governor, the Legislature and the Department of
Labor.
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES - AMENDMENTS
Representative Hanley provided the Committee with a handout
[Attachment #1], consisting of the sub-committee's Mental
Health Trust Income Account recommendations. The handout
out provides a summary of all action taken by the Mental
Health Trust Board. A non-mental health portions had been
previously closed. [Attachment #2].
Co-Chair MacLean questioned what the impact of the Sourdough
expansion delay would be. Representative Hanley noted the
facility would be closed and that intent language would
address the concern. He pointed out there will be no
changes to next year's programing.
Co-Chair MacLean asked the decrement impacts to the alcohol
and drug abuse programs. Representative Hanley noted 900
less people would be served.
JANET CLARKE, DIRECTOR, ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, DEPARTMENT
OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES, explained that the Mental
Health Board did not prioritize their $17 million dollars
list of increments. Representative Brown questioned if
needs would be met with individual decrements specified by
the subcommittee. Representative Hanley explained there is
a spending level of $150 million dollars including the 6%
percent. Representative Brown recommended that API be
funded from the 6% percent saved funds providing an
additional $4 million dollars.
Representative Hanley MOVED to accept the Department of
Health and Social Services subcommittee recommendations on
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the Mental Health Trust recommendations. There being NO
OBJECTIONS, it was adopted.
Representative Hanley provided the Committee a list of the
amendments proposed by the Governor which the subcommittee
did address and rolled into a portion of the budget adopted
by the Committee. He pointed out the Summary of FY 94
G o v e r n o r A m e n d e d B u d g e t
Veto\Transfer\Increment\Decrement\Adjustment Records by
Agency (3/16/93).
Representative Hanley MOVED Section #1013, the proposed
Governor's amendment for Women, Infant and Children. There
being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.
Representative Hanley MOVED Section #1239, Alcohol/Drug
Abuse Grants to offset federal formula decreases. Following
discussion in the Committee, the amount was amended to $332
thousand dollars. Co-Chair MacLean MOVED the changed amount
of $332 million dollars. Ms. Clarke pointed out that the
Governor's suggested amendment originated from all Mental
Health Trust to help off set the loss of federal funds which
the Division had received. Representative Hanley pointed
out the Mental Health Board does not approve of alcohol and
drug abuse funds coming from mental health money.
Representative Brown OBJECTED to reducing the recommended
dollars by the Governor to $332 thousand dollars.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Hoffman, Martin, Navarre, Brown, Foster,
Grussendorf, MacLean.
OPPOSED: Parnell, Therriault, Hanley, Larson.
The MOTION PASSED, (7-4). The amendment stayed at $460
thousand dollars.
Representative Hanley explained that Section #1827 would be
HELD open for Home and Community based waivers in the amount
of $2.966 million dollars which would be addressed in the
formula section of the budget.
(Tape Change, HFC 93-75, Side 2).
Co-Chair Larson pointed out HESS #1, personal services for
the institutions and administration, $724 thousand dollars
was WITHDRAWN and a revised HESS #1 was distributed to the
Committee. Co-Chair Larson MOVED the amendment.
Representative Hanley OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
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IN FAVOR: 0
OPPOSED: Martin, Navarre, Parnell, Therriault,
Brown, Foster, Grussendorf, Hanley,
Hoffman, MacLean, Larson.
The MOTION FAILED, (0-11).
Representative Martin MOVED HESS #2 which would bring the
PFD Hold Harmless component to zero. Representative Brown
OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Therriault, Martin, Larson.
OPPOSED: Navarre, Parnell, Brown, Foster,
Grussendorf, Hoffman, MacLean.
Representative Hanley was not present for the vote.
The MOTION PASSED, (3-7).
Representative Navarre MOVED HESS #3 which would provide
$1,590,303 million dollars for early intervention services
for the treatment and prevention of child abuse/neglect
and/or delinquency. The goals for early intervention
services include treatment, home based services and crisis
intervention. [Attachment #1].
REPRESENTATIVE FRAN ULMER spoke in support of the amendment.
She emphasized the price society pays for allowing people to
become totally desperate. Representative Hanley OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman, Navarre.
OPPOSED: Parnell, Therriault, Foster, Hanley,
Martin, MacLean, Larson.
The MOTION FAILED, (4-7).
Representative Grussendorf MOVED HESS #4 which would provide
funds to be used for financial support to Emergency Medical
Services and that involvement in activities of the State
Emergency Response Commission (SERC). Representative
Therriault OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
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IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman, Navarre.
OPPOSED: Therriault, Foster, Hanley, Martin,
Parnell, Larson, MacLean.
The MOTION FAILED, (4-7).
Co-Chair Larson MOVED HESS #5 which would delete $492.6
thousand dollars for the chronically mentally ill.
MEL KROSANG, AIDE, REPRESENTATIVE RAMONA BARNES, stated the
amendment was the corresponding amendment made to the
Department of Corrections (DOC) budget changing the funding
source. Previously, those funds were taken from the HESS
budget and then RSA'd to DOC. The transferring of funds
would be eliminated. There being NO OBJECTION, it was
adopted.
Representative Navarre MOVED HESS #6. He pointed out the
amount would need to be transferred to DOC providing a
decrement of $200 hundred thousand dollars for chronically
mentally ill services. Representative Brown MOVED TO AMEND
by adding an offsetting increment to the Office of Public
Advocacy to reduce the case loads recommended by the Mental
Health Board. Co-Chair MacLean OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Brown, Navarre.
OPPOSED: Foster, Grussendorf, Hanley, Hoffman,
Martin, Parnell, Therriault, Larson,
MacLean.
The MOTION FAILED, (2-9).
Representative Hanley OBJECTED to HESS #6. Ms. Krosang
explained use of the program has not housed many inmates
although support services and clinicians are available to
provide necessary services.
(Tape Change HFC 93-76, Side 1).
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Hoffman, Martin, Navarre,
Parnell, Therriault.
OPPOSED: Foster, Hanley, Brown, MacLean, Larson.
The MOTION PASSED, (6-5).
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Representative Hoffman MOVED HESS #7 which would provide
funds for the Bethel Youth Facility which received a five
percent reduction. Representative Martin OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Hoffman, Navarre, Brown.
OPPOSED: Hanley, Martin, Parnell, Therriault,
Foster, Larson, MacLean.
The MOTION FAILED, (4-7).
Representative Hoffman MOVED HESS #8 which would add funding
for Public Health Services and Community and Health Grants
for health aide training. Representative Hanley OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Hoffman, Brown, Grussendorf, MacLean.
OPPOSED: Hanley, Martin, Navarre, Parnell,
Therriault, Foster, Larson.
The MOTION FAILED, (4-7).
Representative Brown MOVED TO AMEND Amendment HESS #9
deleting a portion of the money that is being transferred to
the Commissioner's Office from various divisions of the
Department and changing the amount to $52.6 thousand
dollars. It would restore $52.6 thousand dollars grant line
to the Council on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault.
There being NO OBJECTION, it was changed.
Representative Brown MOVED HESS #9. Ms. Clarke explained
that the Commissioner agreed that if the budget level was
approved, there would be no additional RSA's to the
Division. She added, DHSS is a large complicated agency
requiring appropriate management to administer the $250
million dollars federal funds annually placed into the
budget. The Department would oppose any efforts to reduce
the level of the Commissioner's Office beyond what the
subcommittee recommended. Representative Hanley OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Hoffman, Parnell, Brown, Grussendorf.
OPPOSED: Martin, Navarre, Therriault, Foster,
Hanley, Larson.
Representative MacLean was not present for the vote.
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The MOTION FAILED, (4-6).
Representative Brown WITHDREW HESS #10, HESS #11, HESS #12
and HESS #13. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.
Representative Brown MOVED HESS #14 which would add $800
thousand general fund dollars and delete $800 thousand
dollars Mental Health Trust money. She provided the
Committee with back-up information. [Attachment #3 & #4].
Representative Hanley OBJECTED. Ms. Clarke replied that the
costs above the basic room and board identified by the
Department as residential child care could be attributed to
the Mental Health Trust budget.
DEBORAH WING, DIRECTOR, FAMILY AND YOUTH SERVICES,
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICE, pointed out that
residential care is a facility which handles children who
have behavioral problems above the need of a regular foster
care program and need additional services above the care
they need.
REPRESENTATIVE JOHN DAVIES pointed out the Mental Health
Trust Board has stated that they oppose the use of funds for
the increment.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Navarre, Brown, Hoffman.
OPPOSED: Martin, Parnell, Therriault, Foster,
Grussendorf, Hanley, Larson.
Representative MacLean was not present for the vote.
The MOTION FAILED, (3-7).
Representative Brown MOVED HESS #15. Representative Davies
commented the amendment would restore under-funding for
existing field workers. The worker's are employed to
determine eligibility for clients.
JAN HANSEN, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF ADULT PUBLIC ASSISTANCE,
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES, stated the
amendment would provide the necessary match in order to
qualify the to federal money. Representative Hanley
OBJECTED. [Attachment #5].
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman.
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OPPOSED: Navarre, Parnell, Therriault, Foster,
Hanley, Martin, Larson.
Representative MacLean was not present for the vote.
The MOTION FAILED, (3-7).
Representative Brown MOVED HESS #16.
REPRESENTATIVE JIM NORDLUND stated the amendment would
restore a decrement to public health nursing in Anchorage.
The cut would create an elimination of one public health
nurse in Anchorage a severe cutback in clinic hours.
Representative Hanley OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman, Navarre.
OPPOSED: Parnell, Therriault, Foster, Hanley,
Martin, MacLean, Larson.
The MOTION FAILED, (4-7).
Representative Navarre MOVED HESS #17. Representative
Nordlund explained that the amendment would provide an
additional travel reduction to the Office of the
Commissioner. Representative Hanley OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Brown, Foster, Grussendorf, Hoffman,
Martin, Navarre, Parnell, Larson, MacLean.
OPPOSED: Therriault, Hanley.
The MOTION PASSED, (9-2).
Co-Chair MacLean WITHDREW HESS #18. There being NO
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.
Representative Navarre WITHDREW HESS #19 & #20. There being
NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.
Representative Martin MOVED HESS #21 reducing general relief
medicine for medical assistance.
(Tape Change, HFC 93-76, Side 2).
Representative Hanley pointed out that since HESS #21
refereed to a formula program, the amendment should be HELD
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and amended in subcommittee from available General Relief
formula funds. Representative Martin advised the federal
government would not allow federal Medicaid money used for
abortions.
Representative Brown MOVED HESS #22 which would retain
funding in the amount of $39.5 thousand dollars in mental
health trust income with the Mental Health and Development
Disabilities Administration. She emphasized that statewide
needs for mental health and developmental disability
services and programs are extensive.
Ms. Clarke added, the transfer would come from the Mental
Health Disabilities Administration component.
Representative Hanley OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Martin, Navarre, Parnell, Therriault,
Brown, Grussendorf.
OPPOSED: Hoffman, Foster, Hanley, Larson,
MacLean.
The MOTION PASSED, (6-5).
Representative Hanley MOVED HESS #23 which would create a
$200 thousand dollar fund partial implementation for an
external permanency planning review of DFYS clients as
directed in AS 47.10.400 - 490. There being NO OBJECTION,
it was so ordered.
Representative Hanley MOVED HESS #24 which would request
funding a pilot project in Fairbanks providing care
coordination and brokered mental health/supportive services
for elderly clients with ADRD. There being NO OBJECTIONS,
it was adopted.
Representative Brown MOVED the Intent Language HESS-A noting
that it was the intent of the Legislature that DHSS not
transfer funding either through an unbudgeted Reimbursable
Services Agreement or through an increase to a budgeted
Reimbursable Services Agreement to the Administrative
Services BRU from other divisions within the Department.
There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.
Representative Hanley MOVED Intent Language HESS-B and HESS-
C. There being NO OBJECTION, they were adopted.
Representative Hanley MOVED Intent Language HESS-D.
Representative Martin OBJECTED.
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A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Navarre, Parnell, Therriault, Brown,
Foster, Grussendorf, Hanley, MacLean,
Larson.
OPPOSED: Martin.
Representative Hoffman was not present for the vote.
The MOTION PASSED, (9-1).
Representative Hanley MOVED Intent Language HESS-E, HESS-F,
HESS-G and HESS-H. There being NO OBJECTION, they were
adopted.
Representative Hanley WITHDREW Intent Language HESS-I.
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.
Co-Chair MacLean MOVED Intent Language HESS-J for the Older
Alaskans Commission. There being NO OBJECTION, it was
adopted.
OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR
MICHAEL NIZICH, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE
SERVICES, OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, provided the Committee
with a handout. [Attachment #6]. He noted that the
Division of Elections has submitted a budget amendment in
the amount of $580.6 thousand dollars for reapportionment
implementation work required for the new year.
Representative Brown asked how much of the request resulted
from the Board's insistence to rewrite the plan. Co-Chair
MacLean noted her opposition to the request. Co-Chair
Larson MOVED the Governor's request. Co-Chair MacLean
OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Navarre, Parnell, Therriault, Brown,
Foster, Grussendorf, Hoffman, Martin,
Larson, MacLean.
OPPOSED: 0
Representative Hanley was not present for the vote.
The MOTION PASSED, (9-1).
Representative Brown MOVED GOV #1 which would transfer the
Department of Environmental Conservation lobbyist contract
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to the Governor's Office. Co-Chair MacLean OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Therriault, Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman,
Navarre, Larson.
OPPOSED: Parnell, Foster, Martin, MacLean.
Representative Hanley was not present for the vote.
The MOTION PASSED, (6-4).
Representative Navarre WITHDREW GOV #2 & #3. There being NO
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.
Representative Brown MOVED to amend GOV #4 with a deletion
of $19.6 thousand dollars leaving $371.7 thousand dollars
for the Media Center and deleting the remainder of the
proposed amendment. Co-Chair MacLean OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Therriault, Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman,
Navarre, Larson.
OPPOSED: Foster, Martin, Parnell, MacLean.
Representative Hanley was not present for the vote.
The MOTION PASSED, (6-4).
Representative Brown MOVED GOV #5.
(Tape Change, HFC 93-77, Side 1).
REPRESENTATIVE TOM BRICE explained the amendment and urged
that the Committee adopt it as it would benefit those people
in the State with the greatest need. Grants would be
distributed to non profit groups for Human Services
Community Matching Grants. Co-Chair MacLean OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Therriault.
OPPOSED: Foster, Hoffman, Martin, Parnell,
Larson, MacLean.
Representatives Hanley and Navarre were not present for the
vote.
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The MOTION FAILED, (3-6).
Representative Brown MOVED Intent Language GOV-A.
Representative Martin OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Foster, Grussendorf, Hoffman, Navarre,
Brown, MacLean, Larson.
OPPOSED: Martin, Parnell, Therriault.
Representative Hanley was not present for the vote.
The MOTION PASSED, (7-3).
LEGISLATURE
Co-Chair MacLean MOVED LEG #1. Representative Navarre
requested LEG #1 be HELD. There being NO OBJECTION, it was
so ordered.
Co-Chair MacLean WITHDREW LEG #2. There being NO OBJECTION,
it was so ordered.
Co-Chair Larson MOVED LEG #3. Representative Martin
OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Hoffman, Navarre, Parnell,
Therriault, Brown, Foster, Larson,
MacLean.
OPPOSED: Martin.
Representative Hanley was not present for the vote.
The MOTION PASSED, (9-1).
Representative Martin MOVED LEG #4 which would eliminate the
Senate Page position; a move which would follow the deletion
of the House Page position. Representative Grussendorf
OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Hoffman, Martin, Parnell, Therriault,
Brown.
OPPOSED: Navarre, Foster, Grussendorf, MacLean,
Larson.
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Representative Hanley was not present for the vote.
The MOTION FAILED, (5-5).
Representative Martin MOVED LEG #5. Representative
Grussendorf OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Martin, Navarre, Parnell, Therriault,
Brown.
OPPOSED: Hoffman, Foster, Grussendorf, Larson,
MacLean.
Representative Hanley was not present for the vote.
The MOTION FAILED, (5-5).
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR
Representative Grussendorf MOVED LABOR #1. Representative
Davies commented the amendment would deny FY 94 Governor's
reduction to Title 36 payroll audits, enforcement and
administration. Representative Martin OBJECTED.
JOHN ABSHIRE, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF LABOR,
commented the amendment would reduce the payroll audits for
public works projects by 20%.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Navarre, Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman.
OPPOSED: Martin, Parnell, Therriault, Foster,
Hanley, MacLean, Larson.
The MOTION FAILED, (4-7).
Representative Grussendorf MOVED LABOR #2. Representative
Davies provided the Committee with an amended version of
LABOR #2. Representative Grussendorf MOVED THE AMENDED
LABOR #2 which would deny FY 94 Governor's reduction to
contractor licensing investigators. Representative Hanley
OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Navarre, Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman,
Larson, MacLean.
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OPPOSED: Parnell, Therriault, Foster, Hanley,
Martin.
The MOTION PASSED, (6-5).
Representative Navarre MOVED LABOR #3 which would add $147.0
thousand dollars for Occupational Safety and Health.
Representative Navarre MOVED TO AMEND LABOR #3 by deleting
the portion which would add $238.0 thousand dollars to the
Wage and Hour administration. There being NO OBJECTION TO
AMEND, it was so ordered. Co-Chair MacLean OBJECTED to the
amended LABOR #3.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman, Navarre.
OPPOSED: Parnell, Therriault, Foster, Hanley,
Martin, MacLean, Larson.
The MOTION FAILED, (4-7).
Representative Navarre MOVED LABOR #4 which would deny FY 94
Governor's reduction to OSH worker certification programs.
Representative Davies explained the amendment. Co-Chair
MacLean OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Navarre.
OPPOSED: Therriault, Foster, Hanley, Hoffman,
Martin, Parnell, Larson, MacLean.
The MOTION FAILED, (3-8).
Representative Navarre MOVED LABOR #5 which would deny the
FY 94 Governor's reduction to the Alaska Health Project.
(Tape Change, HFC 93-77, Side 2).
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman, Navarre.
OPPOSED: Foster, Hanley, Martin, Parnell,
Therriault, Larson, MacLean.
The MOTION FAILED, (4-7).
Representative Grussendorf MOVED LABOR #6.
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REPRESENTATIVE JOE SITTON noted that LABOR #6 would restore
$85 thousand dollars in general funds to fund a Worker's
Compensation Hearing Officer. Representative Martin
OBJECTED.
A roll call was taken on the MOTION.
IN FAVOR: Foster, Grussendorf, Hoffman, Navarre,
Brown.
OPPOSED: Hanley, Martin, Parnell, Therriault,
MacLean, Larson.
The MOTION FAILED, (5-6).
Representative Navarre WITHDREW LABOR #7. There being NO
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.
Co-Chair Larson WITHDREW LABOR #8. There being NO
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.
No Intent Language was provided for the Department of Labor.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 5:15 P.M.
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